Wednesday, October 04, 2006

I Plead The Third!

OK, just to give you something to look at while you ponder the question that really matters, here are Nate and Josh, two nice, All-American boys.

Nate (R) is author Michele Hauf's choice for Yank Who Really Looks Quite British, whom she told us about a few days ago when we were discussing what makes English guys look quintessentially English. She thinks he's got that Prince Will look about him.

Below, we have Josh Bernstein of the History Channel's "Digging for Truth," who just makes me want to shout, "SUCH a nice looking boy!" Our own Bella Stacy thought you'd like to know he exists.

So, here's my question, apropos of nothing you've read above, and dealing only with the fact that

First-Person Narrative in Romance
Drives Me Flippin Crazy!

I mean, if I read, "my womanly flesh became moist, puffy at the the thought of his maleness in me," I don't think Anais Nin, I think, "Nein! Nein!"

First person works for me in good erotica, chick-lit if I were it's demo, I guess, and other lit. But when I read the First in romance, I always think: did she write this in 3rd and flip it over to 1st to make it read chick-lity?

How do you feel about about first-person narrative in romance?
Encore! Thank you, Deidre Knight, for your out-of-this-world GuestBlog yesterday. It was fun talking Trek and trash and extra appendages with you. Please come back soon!
Encore due! Helen Brenna, you've won the ARC of "Parallel Heat!" Email me at with your snail mail, Bella! Thanks all for commenting yesterday.
Encore tre! You can see Nathan Kamp's new Gillette ad at Bella Stacy's blog,


Kati said...

Um, yummy. Thanks Michelle, for starting off my day right! The first guy looks like Paul Bettany, who is British, I think. Paul was in MASTER AND COMMANDER and also WIMBLEDON. He's lovely. I adore him. He reminds me a bit of Hugh Grant (not in looks, but in demeanor) before he began to play cads and scoundrels. Which, BTW, I thought Hugh Grant was never ever sexier than he was in BRIDGET JONES DIARY!

Let's see, first person narrative. Well, when it's employed well, it works for me. Two of my favorite books, TO DIE FOR by Linda Howard and WARPRIZE by Elizabeth Vaughn are both first person, and they both work for me in every angle of romance reading. I think the key is that the characters have to be extremely likeable and their inner monologue needs to ring true. I simply adore Blair Mallory (from TO DIE FOR). She's like a girlfriend and she's SUCH a piece of work. She had me laughing the whole way through the book.

But if first person isn't done well, it can really draw me out of a story. I'm also glad it's generally not a device used in romance. I prefer multiple POVs.

Julie in Ohio said...

Good morning, Bellas!

I do not like first person narratives. I tend to imagine what the heroine looks like and she would never look like me. :o)

I agree with Michele, Nate does have a Prince William look to him.
And Miss Stacy does know us very well. I am very glad to know that Josh exists. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

Playground Monitor said...

Marykate, you're in luck because Linda channeled Blair again and DROP DEAD GORGEOUS, the sequel to TO DIE FOR, comes out in November. I cannot wait!

I like 3rd person in romance because it gets you inside both the hero's and heroine's heads. You see the picture from different angles and I believe the story is richer for it.

Now to take this a step further, are you a POV purist? Do you want to stay in one person's POV until there's an orderly transition? Or will you tolerate head-hopping? (Don't I sound like I know what I'm talking about? *g* I took me FOREVER to figure out POV).

And as my final comment, I write for the confessions magazines and those stories are ALL done in first person female POV. It was hard for me to learn to write in first person and sometimes I want to get in the guy's head SO bad but I have to figure out how to work around it. For me, it's real easy to tell rather than show in first person, and my first draft is usually that. Then I take that draft and strengthen the verbs, add my similes, wipe out passive voice, punch up the dialogue and add in location and character descriptions (up to that point my characters are naked and nowhere).

I've written these for so long now it's hard to switch back to 3rd person. :-( But I can't say I don't like the $$$ from the sales. Were I a better writer, I don't think it would be such a struggle.


P.S. I may have to start watching the History Channel! ;-)

Playground Monitor said...


Did we ever decide on the next Cinema Bella flick?

Kati said...

Marilyn - Good questions! I don't mind head hopping at all. I know it's a big peeve of some readers, but for me, it's no problem. I love Suzanne Brockmann, and she head hops all the time.

I did know about DROP DEAD GORGEOUS, I am thrilled that Blair will be back. I was kind of hoping she'd write the sisters though. Maybe that will come. I mean how many times can someone want to kill Blair? Even if she is a cheerleader. ::wink::

amy kennedy said...

Darn. I just lost my first post. Crap.

Marilyn, you cheeky writer--I cannot believe you have never told us you write for confession magazines--and you make it sound easy. You devil, you.

Marykate, one of my favorite romances is Laura Black's Ravenburn, an historical in 1st person--the heroine's voice is so utterly perfect.

Headhopping is fine--even great--in skilled hands, horribly nerve-wracking in sloppy hands. I adore the Hero's POV. Michelle made me realize how cool the Hero's POV was.

Julie--I always knew I should study History. Love Josh--Nate is very nice to look at, but does nothing for me. Not a thing. Hmmm.

amy kennedy said...

Hey, what is the next flick?

Marilyn--I have to force myself to write in third--first comes so much more naturally to me. Probably because there is an ongoing dialog in my brain.

Michelle Buonfiglio said...

Ah, cogent arguments, all, which I knew I could count on. But I loves me my precious POVs, hizn and hern, and even a couple more if'n it makes sense.

NOT a "head-hop" purist. Some authors do beeuteefully with the POV changes in same chapters. But very few. But I know the real purists say one POV per chapter. That's fine, too.

Marylin, do you mean it wouldn't be such a struggle to switch POV, or it wouldn't be a struggle not to like the money?

Keep the first-person impressions coming; I'm fascinated.

Yes, Julie), Stacy's our girl.

MK, I need to hear more about why it works. I think first person and I think whiny or too exposed w/o subtlety.

Playground Monitor said...

Marylin, do you mean it wouldn't be such a struggle to switch POV, or it wouldn't be a struggle not to like the money?

And I call myself a writer. *g*

I meant if I were a better writer, it wouldn't be such a struggle to switch from first to third. Of course, if I were a better writer, maybe I'd be writing novels instead of short stories (not to belittle the short story because it has its place in literature). But at least I'm writing and after the year I spent in the throes of writer's block, staring at a blank computer monitor, I'm happy. I'm deliriously happy!


amy kennedy said...

I know you asked MK--but I'm gonna answer too. The best 1st person is when it's not whiny, almost more as an observer and yet not removed. Gosh, this is hard to explain.

Perhaps a person is either pre-disposed to it or not. I've read so many Mysteries, most of which are first person, maybe I'm just used to it. Don't know.

Kati said...

Michelle - Let's see if I can try to make it clearer why first person POV can work for me.

In WARPRIZE (Elizabeth Vaughn) the heroine, Lara, is a healer. She's almost a little too good. But there's a definitely BIG MIS in the book between the H/H of the story. The first person works in this case because she's a genuinely good person who is discovering a race of people who she was raised to live in terror of. While she discovers them, we discover them. Her eyes are the viewfinder for us, and her understanding or lack of understanding advances the story for both her and the reader. Her attraction to Kier, the hero is fascinating in that she's inextrably drawn to him, but is terrified of the power (and I don't mean just physical power) he has over her. Her moment of discovery that she has equal, if not more, power in their relationship is the payoff for us. But the story works in first person because it is a race of people completely unknown to both the heroine and the reader. So her discoveries are our discoveries. Vaughn succeeds by making Lara ask the questions we the reader want to know and by making Kier a mystery to us as well as to her.

TO DIE FOR works for me because Blair is completly likeable. This book is successful IMO because I am a southerner and I understand the mind of a southern woman. Her inner monologue is hilarious, and her manipulation of and by Wyatt. I was very sorry not to head hop into Wyatt's head in this book, just because we knew that Blair was making him nuts. But I think in this case, the book worked for me because I love Blair so much. I wanted to hang out with her.

Does that make sense?

Vivi Anna said...

I agree about WARPRIZE. It works wonderfully, and that's because the world she goes into is so foreign, we learn about the world along with her. And it's a beautiful story. Now, that said, that's the only 'romance' I've read that has worked in POV.

I prefer my romances in 3rd.

Now, when I'm reading stuff other than romance, I love 1st person. Kim Harrison's The Hollows series, Rachel Caine's WEather Warden series, The Turning by Jennifer Armintrout, the Anita Blake series....these are all fantastic reads, doen in 1st, but to me none of them are romances.

I also don't like head-hopping. I prefer 1 POV per scene, or during a love scene, I think a switch in mid scene is great. I hate when an author, any author, goes back and forth.

Helen Brenna said...

I generally don't like 1st person romances because most are written from the heroine's pov and, for a romance, I want the hero's perspective. I want to be inside his head. Makes for a better *romance* for me.

Anonymous said...

Hi, Michelle--

Great discussion!

I'm not wild about first person--feels like half the story is missing. Also, I tend to like really agonized heroes, and how can you wallow in the agony if you don't know what he's thinking? One huge caveat, though: if it's a gothic, where the hero may be the bad guy, first person is great because if you could see inside his head you'd know he wasn't the bad guy! Victoria Holt did first person gothics so beautifully.

But is first person the wave of the future? Seems like I'm seeing more of them...

Head hopping--hate it! Ever since I was roundly spanked by contest judges for doing it myself, I HATE head hopping, even when it's well done. I really prefer orderly transitions.

Take care,

Playground Monitor said...

I just had a kind of a thought. *g*

About 2 years ago, Silhouette Desire had a series of books called "Man Talk" where the books were written in only the hero's POV. They were 3rd person, but in the hero's head only.

I enjoyed them because I love being inside the hero's head, but I missed the other side of the story too.

As for headhopping... how on earth can contest judges mark you down for headhopping when La Nora does it all over the place? I don't like it. It yanks me out of the story to be in one head and suddenly in another. But apparently her editor and publisher don't mind.


amy kennedy said...

Helen, forgot to congratulate you. Thare.

Ann, see that's why 1st person works in mysteries as well--you need to have part of the story missing.

Vivi, have you read Patricia Briggs? She has what I hope is a new series, not romance, but romance will definately be involved, maybe even with more than one person. Anyway, it's 1st person paranormal--Moon Called. It was so damn good, I hate to compare one author to another, but I got as excited as I did when I picked-up the first Anita Blake vampire hunter book. Swear. I love the learning curve of 1st person. Just wanted you to know.

Monica Burns said...

{{{{Bellas}}}} I am soooo sorry I missed D yesterday. You all talked ST and Spock!!! Grrrr, had work going on...But I worship the ground that woman walks on, and not just because she's my agent, but because she loves Star Trek and she's just a totally awesome person all round.

First Person POV - I'm not crazy about it. Everyone says it's so intimate, but when I think to myself, I'm not saying well I this, and I that when I'm talking to myself. LOL I've read a few books where it wasn't intrusive at all and I enjoyed it. Jane Eyre is the first one that comes to mind. I've also read a couple of Victoria Holt and Phyllis Whitney books that were in 1stPOV that I really enjoyed. But as a rule, I want 3rd POV for romance, and particuluarly sex scenes. I'm with you Michelle on that one. It's total ick factor for me!

Head hopping, if done well and I'm not confused isn't a problem for me. But so few do it well. I don't think it's important to stay in one POV for an entire chapter, but if a switch is necessary either in the middle of a scene or at a scene break then I say an author should do it. I don't like playing by the rules. Rules were meant to be broken.

Now as to the photos! Oy! Josh is TOTALLY hot! I TIVO Diggig and enjoy all of his shows. I find that he does a thorough job with facts and myths. Often letting you come to your own conclusion. He's a modern-day Indiana Jones, only hotter!! LOL

As for the other dude, does he have freckles or something? Can't get past those little dots. Although he does have really nice eyes! *grin*

amy kennedy said...

Marilyn, once you're the queen you can do whatever you want.

Also, I think it was Mark Twain who said, once you know the rules you can break them.

Sometimes I feel that when an author becomes famous enough, the editing seems to loosen up. Just my humble opinion. Actually not so humble--and I'm not even thinking about Nora here, but I've read some books in a series where I felt no one had even looked at it before shipping it to the printer. Blatant repetition, almost as if the author had forgotten she'd already said the exact same thing, errors in story line...the list do go on. Sorry.

Jennifer Y. said...

POV doesn't really matter to me, but I think I have read more third person books than first. I kind of like knowing what is going on in both the hero's and heroine's heads.

Jess said...

I don't mind first person POV every once in awhile. I really loved Susan Isaac's Shining Through and that was in first person POV. I also really liked The Second Coming of Lucy Hatch by Marsha Moyer and that was fp POV too. Oh, and what about the Outlander series? That is all Claire's POV and that series is a favorite of almost every romance reader.

Didn't Sharon and Tom Curtis of The Windflower fame write a couple fp POV regencies in the early 80's? I've never read them but would be interested in hearing if anyone else has.

As for head hopping, I am fairly tolerant. Nora Roberts is very guilty of swift POV changes and sometimes I have actually gotten a bit lost and had to go back and figure out who was saying what. Not a good thing at all, IMO.

Great topic!

Pam Rosenthal said...

When I first experimented with writing romance, I didn't know how unpopular first person was with the audience. When I did find out, I changed the 20,000 or so words I had of a very early draft of THE BOOKSELLER'S DAUGHTER to second person -- an embryonic version of the deep headhopping second person I've used since then.

But what was interesting was that when I changed all the pronouns I also had to change a number of verb tenses -- from present to past, past to past perfect. It seems that when the pov gets less up front and personal, the action recedes into the past a bit. I'm not sure how to summarize that lesson, but I find it quite fascinating. First person so often has a kind of, "so I'm like..." quality to it, which makes it very appropriate for chicklit -- even Regency chicklit, which my friend and partner in crime romance writer Janet Mullany will be publishing early next year.

And I checked out the verb tenses in the excerpt on her web page, and voila -- "so I'm like" -- only done in funny Regency-speak.

Pam Rosenthal said...

Oh god, I meant third person of course. Who writes in second person besides the Bright Lights Big City guy, anyway?


Kati said...

Ames, I agree about editing. I know that this is a hot button over at AAR, and many many rants have been had over there about poor editing. Lately, I've read multiple books, both by new and established authors that could have benefitted from a strong editor. I think this is a hazard of being a heavy reader though.

Hey Jess! Hi! Thanks for mentioning THE WINDFLOWER! Michelle, when is that going to be an old flame?! I'm still waiting to discuss it! I'm dying to hear what you think of it! Oh come on, you love when I jump into this topic. The only other one I have is tell me hints about Butch's book, and unless you're holding out, I don't think you have the ARC yet. Riiiight? It's not fun unless I'm grovelling for something. LOL!

Vivi Anna said...

Yup, Amy, I loved Moon Called. Can't wait for the next one.

Also, Working for the Devil by Lillith Saintcrow is another superior story done in 1st POV, but not a romance IMHO.

Anonymous said...

Congratulations Helen! Hmmm, if you had asked me a couple of months ago about books in the first person I would have said YUK! But then I read Warprize and I thought...hmmm, that was OK. I'm currently reading You Slay Me (by Katie MacAlister), which is also in the first person. It's hilarious! I know, not what you would normally say about a paranormal romance, but it is very amusing to read.

Ohhh, To Die For? A Linda Howard book I haven't read! Her Mackenzie books were my first real romance books, and the Mackenzie men still make me sigh! I'll have a hunt for it in the library :)


Mistress Regina said...

There's something about the first one that makes him appear British. It maybe his dress.

As for first person, I think everything has it's place. Given that I deal with writers, aspiring writers and those who write solely for enjoyment it's something I frequenlty face.

As you have the opportunity, perhaps you would pay me a visit. I would be interested in your thoughts on our library of stories.

Kati said...

Orianna - Hi! TO DIE FOR is very different from LH's other novels. I adored it (in fact, I had to buy a new one, recently, as I'd reread mine to death and the pages were falling out), but it's not like her other books.

I'd love to hear what you think, once you've read it.

I picked up La Nora's DANCE OF THE GODS today, Bellas! I can't wait for the weekend, I'm gonna be reeeeeadin'!

amy kennedy said...

Pam--LOL, that's exactly what I was thinking--Second person? Wow, the only person I know is "that Bright Lights...guy"-- I really was. How did you find out that it's not a popular POV with romance readers?

Orannia, Katie MacAlistar is funny, and I think she always writes in first person--correct me if I'm wrong--You Slay Me was hilarious. But not what I would consider a true romance, and it is a part of a series.

Vivi, of course you had already read it. I'm going to look for Devil.

Pam--your friend doing the Regency chic-lit sounds funny, I have to see how "so I'm like" is done in Regency speak.

Hi Jesse! Susan Isaac can do no wrong if you ask me. Love the pic.

Janet Mullany said...

Since Pam Rosenthal was kind enough to mention my Regency chicklit--The Chronicles of Miss Wellesley-Clegg with the Occasional Scribbles of Mr. Inigo Linsley (Avon, Oct. 2007)--
yep, it's written in first person, and I had a blast with it. (Rule no. 1, do not have a long title; Rule no. 2, do not use first person in a romance...) I did have to learn how to do it, though, particularly with tense usage, because it's also written in present tense (Rule no. 3). That was something I found very tricky--I guess it's a sort of screenwriter technique, to keep the action going and not get bogged down in internal monologue. As in "I hear a knock at the door..." so open the door already, don't just stand there thinking about it.

As for the hero/heroine point of view...well, I cheated in a way. The narration alternates between hero and heroine. I must say, tho that the weirdest thing about it for me was how readily I assumed the voice of a 19-year-old virgin in 1816.

But I do find the implication disturbing that romance readers are too set in their ways to read something slightly out of the ordinary. There is plenty of fiction written first person, present tense. So what's the big deal?

Michelle Buonfiglio said...

So, you get on a blog and you decide to talk to everyone about pov and while you're doing it you listen to a lot of bright chicks talk about head-hopping. And you wonder how you got so lucky to be doing what you're doing. BLBB (Bright Lights, Big Blog)

I've b een thinking of that all day, Pam and Amy!

Michelle Buonfiglio said...

Hey, Janet! Congrats. I don't think you should infer that all romance readers are set in their ways and won't read something different. One of the hallmarks here at RBtheBlog, which I hope you come to enjoy as you visit often, is how readily we listen and try new stuff.

I'm being frank in what I enjoy most, but I wouldn't be ethical if I only reviewed the voices and sub-gens I like best; I have all my viewers to write for, not just myself to please.

But that's an old saw...

The thing we all need to consider, and you know as a writer, is that what the market bears, the publishers publish. We just find alternative ways to write, read and acquire the different stuff, too.

I'm looking forward to your novel; I hope you'll send me an ARC. :)

Unknown said...

I don't care for first person POV. Don't know why, but I find it very off-putting. I’d much rather have deep third person POV (and I’d never purposefully buy a romance that only gave me one person’s POV, I want ‘em both!).

I have a hard time judging the first crumpet of the day (too young) but I’ve watched quite a bit of Digging for the Truth just to stare at Josh. *GRIN*

Michele said...

Um, Michelle, I am SO glad you liked the pic of Nate G. However, when did I change my name???

I'm Michele N ....My 15 seconds of fame and I'm some one else? *wink*

Thanks for posting my find. Hope all the Bella's liked him too.

Stacy~ said...

You know, I think I might be a writer's dream reader - I'm really not all that picky. There are been several strong and valid points for each side, and I found myself saying "oh yeah, that's so true" a lot. The thing is, I'm pretty easy to please, reading-wise. Head-hopping, 1st person, 3rd person, characters talking to themselves or inanimate objects - not a problem for me.

I do agree that 1st person can be limiting, and I do enjoy getting into the hero's head from time to time, especially if he's crazy in love with the heroine and feeling a little tortured. I think that's why I love Suz Brockmann so much. Great point about her, MK. Yet then someone mentioned Linda Howard and her 1st person, and her style totally works for me. (Furiously writing down numerous titles that have been mentioned as examples for both sides).

Do writers respect readers who are as easy to please as me? Sure, you probably want to clone us, but will you respect us in the morning?

As for Josh, well Bellas, I live to serve LOL.

ev said...

Hey bellas- looks like I missed a great blog today.

Vivi- I lov Kim Harrison and LKH's Anita Blake series. Have you read her fairy series?

Thanks to her and Brockmann and a few others, I have learned to enjoy first person. I used to hate it. I enjoy Patterson's head hopping. It all depends on the author. I can usually read anything from any point of view.

Orcannia-Have you read MacAllister's Men in Kilts? It is so very funny.

Julie in Ohio said...

Alright. It is very possible I am completely off my rocker here but I'm getting confused. One minute the discussion is on the narrative and the next it's POV. To me, they are completely different entities. Am I not grasping something?

I just read my very first gothic romance in which the entire book was shown in the heroine's POV. Because you were only reading what the heroine thought or saw, it was more suspenseful than anything I've read. It was terrific (Thank you very much, Eve Silver).

I feel as though first person and one sided stories are completely different.

Manda Collins said...

Hey Bellas! POV, boy is that one foremost in the mind this week. Over in the Avonfanlit contest people are always leaving comments about POV problems. But really I don't have a problem with "head hopping" if its done well Eloisa James does it and it works.

I'm not really a big fan of first person narratives in general. But it doesn't keep me from reading something I want to read.

Stacy, you need to write the definitive Nathan Kemp biography, already--or at least put out a calendar so we can look at all those delicious covers even when the power is out;)

I'm in the top ten in the fanlit contest this week again, Bellas. Come vote for me--mine is Love Play. And the other nine entries are v. g. And it's hard to be good when your chapter must include purple draperies, a feather and a surprise at midnight...
I promise I don't work for Avon, I'm just pimpin' my chapter--which ain't easy;)

Manda Collins said...

uh, that's

Manda, who is queen of typos...

Stacy~ said...

How cool Manda! I'll go check it out. Good luck :)

amy kennedy said...

Manda, I knew you should be doing this. How cool. I'm goin to vote.

Julie in Ohio said...

YAY, MANDA!! I'm going right over to vote... :o)

Playground Monitor said...

Pimp away, darlin'. A friend of mine was in the very first American Title contest and ended up winning because she was out in the trenches promoting her book. If you don't believe in yourself, how can you expect others to?

Go get em!


Manda Collins said...

Thanks, guys! Julia Quinn even submitted a chapter this go round--and it didn't final!! She used a pseudonym, but still. That's how crazy this contest is.

BTW, these two hunks are a great way to start the morning...

Manda Collins said...

Thanks, Marilyn--say, aren't you from Alabama? If so, then thought you'd be proud to know there are two of us from Bama in the top ten: the lady who wrote Tiger, Tiger, and moi. (I don't think she's an Auburn fan, but you can never tell;)

Playground Monitor said...

Yep, I'm in Alabama -- Rocket City USA.


ev said...

My hubby watches the history channel all the time, and drags me into it. Wonder why he never told me about this show???

Unknown said...

Oh wow, lots to comment on!
First-the blond haired dude? Nope doesn't look like a Brit to me. Too...clean and shiny and not slightly shabby and disheviled. The archaelogist guy? Yes please! (I did archaelogy as part of my degree and never met anyone who looked like that!)
POV-I wrote one book in first person because the character demanded I did it. And guess what, it was the very first book I ever sold (Eden's Pleasure to Ellora's Cave) I think it worked because it's a very erotic story and she just was so strong.
I don't like too much headhopping altho I forgive Nora because, well because she is my hero!
Avon fanlit-I gave up after 2 chapters having come in at 119th! it was funny to go back to being told I had a long way to go before I was ever going to be good enough to become a published writer!

amy kennedy said...

Kate, how odd--were you really told that? I do think some erotic stories are better in first. I never even submitted anything, once Regency won, I just knew I would have way too much to learn, funny, because, it's one of my favorites to read. But I know I can't write it.

I wanted to tell Janet Mullany that the excerpts I read on her website got me to want to read the book. And when she said how readily she assumed the voice of a nineteen year old virgin--I get that, because apparently I'm a 14 year old psychic. Scary.

MarcAntonia said...

well, i really like the first person in diana gabaldon's outlander series. but as far as in can keep that to your self.

Manda Collins said...

Kate, ugh, I hate that part of Avonfanlit. It brings out the worst in some people. Sorry you had a bad experience. It is rather ego shattering to be told by perfect strangers that you shouldn't have bothered...I am still floored that Julia Quinn didn't even meet the exacting standards of these people!

Hey, marcantonia! I like first person in Gabaldon, too. It works there.

Michelle Buonfiglio said...

Oh, Kate. First you tell me Becks isn't an East End boy. Now you go braggin about the messy look that English guys have goin. You're breakin my heart, here! Maybe you could be our tour guide when we take our "research" trip to GB, show us the sights, if you know what I'm sayin.

You know, you're FanLit story breaks my heart, too. But you're in good company with JulieQ, no?

Ive loved reading what everyone has to say about POV/narrative, etc. I like that lots of us disagree, but we're all cool about it.

yeah, ev, I wonder...

Unknown said...

No worries over the Fanlit-it was funny rather than frustrating and hey-if Julia Quinn didn't make it, who am I to worry!

What research trip? I have 5 sisters in England who would love to show you all around!