Friday, June 12, 2009

Janice Maynard GuestBlog: Saint And Sinner

CONTEST TODAY!!! One LCB wins an ARC of "Mating Game" and a Lori Foster/Dianne Castell Get-Together Goodie Bag from Janice! Please make your email addy available in comment or profile to enter.

From Michelle:
Our Bella Janice Maynard first visited after she made the erom scene w/ a lervely little number, "Suite Fantasy," which intro'd us to her sassy n'sweet style of HEA erotic romance. With her new "Mating Game," she's kinda kicking up the sexual stakes -- and the plot intensity -- some notches, as she explores what used to be forbidden territory in romance. I think she succeeds, and readers who've been clamoring for true contemporary heroines in 'trad' romance can rest a little easier tonight, know wha'm sayin? Please give Janice a big 'ol "I didn't think nice Southern girls did
that" Bella buongiorno...


From Janice: A big, heartfelt thank you to Michelle for inviting me to guest blog today!! And an even bigger, good old southern howdy to all you wonderful Bellas!! I always love the interesting chit chat when I get to drop by…

I gave today’s topic long and hard consideration (get your minds out of the gutter!), and I want to us to talk about the good girl/bad girl dichotomy. Or to paraphrase, Disney – Lady and the Slut.

I have to be honest – I came by my sexual experience the old-fashioned way… I married my high school sweetheart at age nineteen (between our sophomore and junior years of college) and on May 30 we celebrated our 34th anniversary. (Yeah – now you know – I’m 53.)

Although I adored the "Sex and the City" series, those women and their antics were as foreign to me as pod people. I grew up in an area of the country known as the Bible belt, and one reason so many kids around here marry young is that living “in sin” or simply “sleeping around” were not (and maybe “are” not) considered to be the actions of well-brought-up young southern ladies.

So you can imagine my floundering when my editor and I put our heads together about a heroine who essentially “tries out” three potential mates in a rather short amount of time. The forced marriage is, of course, an old plot device, but in "Mating Game," the heroine really has no good alternative to her actions. The grandmother (who raised the heroine) has recently died and has imposed a seemingly cruel and manipulative restriction on the inheritance. The heroine has to be married in thirty days. If she is not, she loses the antebellum home where she grew up and hundreds of acres of land, all of which have been in her family for at least 150 years.

Nola, my heroine, is willing to consider the outlandish requirement, but she doesn’t want to get divorced immediately, so she wants to choose the man who has the best potential to be a lifelong mate. And that includes sexual compatibility… which she hopes will eventually lead to love.

There are three potential candidates: her current lover (who is a marriage-shy playboy), her high school sweetheart (who she later finds has reason to despise her), and a third man, a stranger (who seems to be manipulating her).

In the midst of all this sexual excess, Nola suddenly becomes the target of an unknown killer… and circumstances combine to show her that any one of the three men in her bed might be dangerous.

I certainly couldn’t write this heroine from any personal experience. She is willing to have sex with three men, all within a month. If you decide to read "Mating Game," you’ll have to be the judge of whether or not Nola falls into the lady or slut category, and whether or not the end justifies the means.

So I ask you - Can a heroine be “free” with her body and still be a traditional romance heroine? Is it realistic to think that a woman might be attracted to three different men for different reasons? Can a 21st century woman separate sex and love? And does a fictional woman get license to do things we wouldn’t???

I can’t wait to hear your answers!! -- Janice M.
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Encore! Way back when, we discussed at RBTB the phenomenon of the LiberTina. Definite food for thought in terms of this discussion and the reality of women gettin' they's own like the boys do...

64 comments:

Stacy~ said...

Hey Miss Janice! You know I adore you, and can't wait to read this book.

And to answer your question, I have no problem with a more adventurous heroine. I think nowadays a lot of women (though definitely not all) of various ages cannot relate to the virginal or less experienced heroine, so it's liberating to see a more experienced heroine, one who's enjoyed taking lovers and embracing her sexuality. Not to say that every heroine has to go out and sleep around, because that's not realistic either, or that having numerous lovers makes her a slut or having 1 or 2 makes her a prude - I don't believe that either. But it is refreshing to find a variety of heroines that readers can relate to. I've read romance over 25 years, so for me, I do enjoy reading about women I can more easily identify with from time to time.

My only concern with this particular storyline is just the short time frame - 3 lovers in 30 days. I'm dying to see how you pull it off. Was the idea of a longer period of time, say 3 or even 6 months, ever discussed? What made you settle on 30 days?

Judy F said...

I think I would be ok with it. Men do that all the time. So why not...

I can't wait to read this book.

It was great seeing you again Janice.

And Michelle talking on video still terrifys me.

Janice Maynard said...

Good morning everybody! I've been looking forward to my Friday with the Bellas and of course, Ms. Michelle! Can't wait to read all the comments as folks weigh in on the multiple lovers situation...

Stacy - You've posed the first question of the day, and it turns out to be extremely pertinent. When I submitted my original proposal for this book, the heroine had either three months (or 6 months - I can't really remember)to find a hubby. My editor was the one who wanted to reduce the time frame. Because someone is trying to kill the heroine, the 30 days really ups the ante and keeps the pace suspenseful.

Janice

Monica Burns said...

Hi Janice, this book sounds soooo intriguing!

As to your questions, I look at it this way. If we accept men as being free with their bodies, why can't a woman? I don't doubt there'll be some readers who aren't comfortable with the idea, but that's what's called breaking ground. I think it's a fabulous premise for a story. I'm going to have to put it on my TBB list.

As for a fictional woman getting license to do things we wouldn't? HELL YES. It's why I call it fantasy romance. We all know there are lot things we wouldn't do in our real lives that we enjoy reading about, fantasizing about. Romance is about combining our love of the happy ending and fantasy. Would I be able to do what your character is doing? Ummm, no, but I sure as hell want to know how it works out! LOL

Excellent post.

Michelle Buonfiglio said...

Buongiorno, Bellas, and welcome back, Janice! So good to have you here again! Gosh, seems like yesterday we were both starting out, trading emails about "Suite Fantasy," which I kept calling and writing, "Fantasy Suite." And I'm still getting names and titles mixed up...

When I first read romance, one of the things I studied was the time element; everything happened in a small frame. Another element I studied was the 'previous relationship' piece: often, h/hns had met before, which allowed readers greater comfort with smaller time frames in which h/hns fall in love, become intimate (emotionally and/or sexually) break apart, and do the hea thang. In this book, as Janice says, the 3 mnth pd ups the ante, and because the book isn't a saga or romantic adventure, there's not enough 'action' to spread out over time or space, as in an epic fantasy or urban fantasy, or even historical w/war and troop movements and passage of time. What passage of time that does take place -- which is very important in this novel, and adds so much -- is dealt with well w/in plot, and adds comfort for the reader who might normally be uncomfortable w/a heroine's having multiple partners before hea.

What I find interesting is that some of the same people who've shared w/me they want more "realistic" heroines are the same ones who've described to me shock and betrayal when they read a heroine or hero who sleeps w/more than one person w/in a romance. They speak about breaking the romance contract. Which means, I think, that folks have all kinds of fantasies about what hea means to them. It also means that, perhaps (a big, fat, I-don't-believe-it's-changing-anytime-soon-all-that-much) notions of what the 'romance contract' consists of is changing. Thankfully, there are lots of different books being written and, as Monica's saying, books like "Mating Game," break ground.

But I've also gotta say I read "Mating Game" as marvelous erom, not traditional romance, because of the heroine's choices not being "main-stream" in terms of the 'traditional' romance novel. I say this because it's important romance readers understand what they're buying so they get what they're comfortable with, and so authors' work gets fair play.

Michelle Buonfiglio said...

Judy, as long as it was the video and not me that terrified you!!!

Michelle Buonfiglio said...

25 years, Stace?! So, you started when you were in kindergarten...

Portia Da Costa said...

Wow, this book sounds fantastic, actually! I've always liked the forced marriage trope [sheesh, did I just say trope? LOL] whether it be in a category romance or a historical romance... so I'm excited to see how it works in an erotic romance. If anyone can pull off this 'three lovers in 30 days' storyline, Janice can!

I've written plenty of adventurous heroines in my time, but I freely admit, the books they were in weren't romances, as such. More women's erotica with certain romance elements. To create a heroine sympathetic to romance readers, who at the same time has multiple lovers, is a challenge... so I'm dying to see how Janice tackles it! :)

Monica Burns said...

they read a heroine or hero who sleeps w/more than one person w/in a romance. They speak about breaking the romance contract.

Ya know, I've never really thought about the "romance contract." I just want a good book, and if someone breaks the "rules," then that's cool. It makes for an interesting read. I don't think it's wrong for readers to want specific things in their books, I'm just saying that for me, I like different just as much as I like the good old standards (sort of like I love vanilla ice cream, but occasionally I spring for chocolate mint or pineapple ice cream). It keeps me on my toes as a reader. The only thing I have to have is that HEA. But how a character takes me there, I'm pretty much okay with most things (although I do confess that I'm not into reptilian tails going into places that they shouldn't. Ewwwww)

Michelle Buonfiglio said...

speaking of ewww, Mon, one of my best girls has this fave erom where the heroes where these space suits and the gloves are, like, studded, and... yeah...

Monica Burns said...

space suits and the gloves are, like, studded, and... yeah...

GOOD LORD! 'nuff said. LOL

Michelle Buonfiglio said...

and it's so funny, cause she just giggles, and you have to giggle with her; she loves this e-book so much.

uh, yeah, portia, you did say trope. But we know you're one'a them intellekshul types. You've kinda hit on what I've been thinking, that we're more used to a chick making more 'real-life' choices in partners in erotic romance. Yet, how real-life are they, when they have to be over-the-top enough to titillate along with the hea? Again, the bigger question is, perhaps, how do we get the reader to understand what she's buying?

When you, I, Mon, Janice, Stace are discussing this, we're coming from a place of extreme comfort in terms of erotic content (multiple partners, etc, before hea). But Janice's readership is used to one h one hn on the road to hea, so this is a departure for her readership (as well as an opportunity for new fans of erom to realize what a fine writer she is). There's a possibility that "Mating Game" could stretch the boundaries of 'trad' romance. I'd rather see it draw in more erotic romance fans.

I hate to see readers disappointed or confused when they buy a book expecting a certain level of sensual content and getting more/less than they expected. It seems to me still problematic, not yet cleared up since the great erom rush of a few years ago.

Janice Maynard said...

You guys already have me spewing Coke on the keyboard!! Monica and Michelle - repilian tails and studded gloves??? Ewww...

Y'all are too funny... :)

Monica- My dear sis and I disagree on the topic of hot sex in romance. She likes the bedroom door closed and wants the characters to abide by her moral code. But as you said - this is fantasy... and my heroines definitely do things I wouldn't!

Portia - No pressure from you! Ha! I must admit to being nervous about this one... Michelle told me she wasn't sure who the heroine would end up with.. so that made me feel good. I wanted to make it clear that she had good relationships with all three men and valid reasons to choose each.

But in the end it was "falling in love" that tipped the scales.

I HAVE to have my happy ending, no matter the twists and turns the plot may take.

JaniceMaynard said...

Michelle says "It seems to me still problematic, not yet cleared up since the great erom rush of a few years ago."

So true! Last weekend at the Cincinnati get-together, I chatted with Rose Hilliard. She is the editor who bought Suite Fantasy for NAL. She said that when SF came out, it was considered edgy erotic romance... but what is now being called erotic romance is so far out there on the edge that my stuff looks almost tame. We were discussing the fact that I love character driven stories and where my writing career might take me...

I think my books fall through the cracks sometimes... because they are not wild enough for the die-hard erotic romance fans, but the label "erotic" scares off traditional romance readers who might actually like them.

Such is this business. :)

Deb's Book Nook said...

Janice, this book sounds intriguing! Can't wait for all the twists and turns and see who the heroine picks for her HEA.

Personally 3 guys is a bit much for me, but them I'm from the same generation and Bible Belt area Janice is from. Does that mean I can't read about them and enjoy the story? Heck no! That's what reading is all about for me. To escape to a new world and forget the day to day normal stuff.

Way to go Janice! I look forward to more of your awesome books!

Jody F. said...

I have no problem with a more sexually knowledgable heroine, since I don't care for a heroine who becomes faint at the sight of a naked man. And I find it less than believable that a heroine hasn't seen some nakedness in her lifetime.

And I only wish I had three men to pick from. That's truly fiction for ya. LOL! So kudos to the heroine who is in that predicament.

joderjo402 AT gmail DOT com

Janice Maynard said...

Deb - It was great to see you last weekend... where - by the way - the odds were about 290 women to 10 men... definitely a henfest. :)

Jody - If I can round up three great men, I'll send them your way!

:)

Monica Burns said...

Monica- My dear sis and I disagree on the topic of hot sex in romance. She likes the bedroom door closed and wants the characters to abide by her moral code.

Oy Vey! I understand you. One of my sisters won't even READ my books because she doesn't want to indulge in my s*xual fantasies. Che cazzo

Does your sister read your books or does she not.

Janice Maynard said...

Monica - I wrote three Precious Gem romance for Kensington in the late nineties... some sex, but pretty tame. My sis read those and liked them. But when my first Brava novella came out in Wildest Dreams, she pestered me for a copy. I told her she wouldn't like it, but she kept on and on, so I finally caved. She read it and was very offended by the content. Last book I ever gave her...

But having said that, we are a tight family and love each other very much. So even though we disagree on many issues, we don't let it come between us. Family is too important to split up over differences of opinion, even in regard to subjects like politics, religion, and in this case - sexuality!

David B. said...

Interesting premise, for sure.

The male perspective on this truly illuminates just how different we think of men and women. Imagine if this were a man put into this scenario. Would he need to sleep with every one of his prospects? Would he want to? (HHmm, tough one there). Evey dyanamic changes if it's a man. That may be obvious, but thinking it through offers some interesting compare/contrast analysis.

Male Perspective Guy

Monica Burns said...

But having said that, we are a tight family and love each other very much.

My siblings and I love each other too, but we're awfully Italian. LOL

Janice Maynard said...

David (aka male perspective guy) says "Every dynamic changes..."

Ain't it the truth! In the male "fantasy" we all get mushy and damp-eyed at the idea of the guy who has slept with a harem of women and suddenly stumbles upon the one woman who can fulfill his every need until death... 'cause his heart is finally engaged.

So we can't exactly complain about the double standard, because I say (with some trepidation) that many romance readers (me included) don't throw metaphorical stones at the sexually experienced guy. There's not even a male equivalent for the word "slut" - is there? Unless it involves the exchange of cash and then we call him a gigolo, which is still a much more positively tainted word than "whore" or "prostitute".

Frankly, I'd be horrified if my daughters slept around on their way to finding Mr. Right. (They actually both followed their mother's example - married young to great guys). In fact - the joke is in our family that we marry young but we stay married.

So where does that leave my poor heroine? I gave her lots of good motivation for her actions... but in the end, is she a bit "easy"? You'd think I would know the answer, but it all seems like one big gray area...

Thanks, David, for the male input!

Janice Maynard said...

Monica - Does "Italian" translate to much yelling? :)

Monica Burns said...

There's not even a male equivalent for the word "slut" - is there?

Man-whore...watch 2&1/2 Men any, and you'll understand why Charlie Sheen's character is called this. But I love him and the show.

And yes, Italian translates into yelling as well as over-the-top dramatics on my part. But we're half German too, so sparks are bound to fly. LOL

Even though I don't really don't have anything in common with my siblings, I love them all very much. That's the hardest part I think, loving someone, but knowing that being just friends for friends sake isn't really possible. Too much childhood baggage some of us can't let go of.

SORT OF like baggage some women readers can't let go of when it comes to female sexuality. It's not that those readers shouldn't have certain romance expectations, it's just that they have their own personal internal conflicts that make it difficult, if not impossible, to just let go and have a relationship with a book that has more sex than they're used too. I really understand where they're coming from. But I think letting go is freeing.

Stacy~ said...

Michelle, I agree that I don't always want the more realistic heroine, especially in historicals, I tend to prefer the virginal types. But I'm finding as I get older, I'm more open to the idea, especially after reading a few well-written stories that have given us an experienced heroine, and so I'm interested in broadening my horizons. Sometimes I backslide LOL, but mostly I am trying to see it from all sides.

Ahem, I wish I could claim to be that young, but I was 12 when I first read romance, and even then, erotic romance made an appearance. Let's just say in one book I read involved a cucumber. 'nuff said. Talk about an education.

And Michelle, good point about Janice's readership - we are used to the more traditional storylines (one h/hn) in her books, so I hope others are willing to give this one a try. Very brave of her to write something so deliciously erotic.

MPG: "Hmm, tough one there". Oh, I'm sure it would be an incredible internal struggle to make that decision LOL. Of course this tends to be a much more accepted scenario, but I think things are (finally) starting to swing in the opposite direction. Yay for the women with such problems *g*

Janice Maynard said...

Monica - You're right! I do watch 2 1/2 Men... and I had forgotten that phrase! Obviously Allen has a negative view of his brother's antics, but now that you mention it, the show proves my point. Clearly the audience isn't horified by Charlie's behavior or the show would have tanked long ago.

But it's interesting to note that in this season that just ended they have finally written Charlie into a monogamous (headed toward marriage) relationship.

The only female character I can think of who is similar to Charlie is Samantha on Sex and the City. And even her friends sometimes look askance at her "recreational" sex life.

Janice Maynard said...

Stacy - I was also reading romances at age 12... but I can't say that I remember a cucumber. :)

I do love a virginal heroine in a yummy historical... but she doesn't have to be for me to love her character...

scottsgal said...

I just checked Hot Mail out of the library yesterday can't wait to read it. I think women should have the same rights and be held to the same standards (although it doesn't always happen) and be free sexually to do whatever they want to do! Love 2 1/2 Men - watch it every night and just crack up at Allen and Charlie.
msboatgal at aol.com

Monica Burns said...

they have finally written Charlie into a monogamous (headed toward marriage) relationship

True, I'm wondering why they did that, unless they're trying to put a new spin on it to keep the show fresh. Although from what I've seen almost every show that used marriage as a twist wound up tanking...Moonlighting, The Nanny, and there are others, but apparently viewers thought the spice had gone out of the show.

So clearly writing spicy, really different (3 men so little time) romance should steam up the shelves. *grin*

Julie in Ohio said...

Welcome, Janice!!! Afternoon, Bellas all!!!

Janice, I am the lucky recipient of both Hot Mail and Mating Game from Brenda Novak's auction. I can't wait to read them both and this discussion is only getting me more anxious to get a hold of them. =o)

I definitely agree that a fictional woman (or man) gets a license to be bigger and badder than a real lifer. As Monica said, it's all about the fantasy.
I have no qualms about a fictional woman having more than one lover as long as the story calls for it and there is a HEA at the end.

Thanks, Janice. Can't wait to read the stories.

Janice Maynard said...

Scottsgal - Hope you like Hot Mail. I probably shouldn't play favorites, but I think it is the closest to my heart all the books I have written. It's set in a small town, and although I never model characters after real people, those characters are people I "could" know - does that make sense?

Janice Maynard said...

Monica - I'm finding it hard to believe that Charlie will actually make it to the altar. I always hoped he'd end up with Rose. I figured they deserved each other!

Janice Maynard said...

Julie - How sweet of you! I'm supposed to wait for some kind of "go ahead" from Brenda, but I have the books laid out on counter ready to mail. I'm going to be in and out a lot the last half of June, but I'll get them to you, I promise!

Jane said...

Hi Janice,
Happy Anniversary and congrats on the upcoming release. I loved "The Perfect Ten." I do think it's possible for a woman to be free with her body and be a traditional heroine. I think most are fine with it as long as the characters are monogamous.

Keri Stevens said...

Since I got a boatload of goodies (and won the BELLA basket--go me!) at the silent auction last weekend, I don't need to be entered into the contest. But it doesn't stop me from wanting to put in my two cents. Or three.

I think there is only one rule left in romantic fiction--the happy ever after. The diversity of what we want to read has exploded to the point that it's more of a question to me of finding the readers rather than meeting their expectations. One woman may not be able to swallow the storyline (tee-HEE!), but the gal on the lounge chair next to her will eat it up.

Through blogs like this one we can each find something to suit our (ahem) tastes.

If you're going to push the edge of expectations, however, you have to do it well . . . and I've read enough JM to know you're the writer to make it work!

Janice Maynard said...

Jane - Thanks very much for the congrats on both fronts! In "The Perfect Ten", I wrote my first and (so far) only "nerd" hero... the sexy, brilliant-but-shy intellectual. And I loved pairing him with an equally smart woman who was so beautiful she made him tongue tied for the first time in his life. Believe I might still have a crush on him - ha! :)

Keri - It was great to meet you last weekend. I'm glad we could hang out at the table and chat. Congrats on winning the Bella basket... :)

And I hope you're right that women will go along for the ride as long as there's always the happily ever after!

Princess Bumblebee said...

Hey, Bellas! Welcome, Janice!
Your new novel sounds like it's definately pushing the boundaries, but, as I've noticed a lot lately, romance has definately expanded it's boundaries in the past few years. Since it's the leader in book sales, it's not such a surprise, really. Indeed, as Kari said, it's more about finding the readers, anymore.
Myself, I love the virginal heroine, but then again, I'm more of the historical romance reader, myself, so that's just me. Indeed, more women today can relate to a woman who isn't a virgin. And, hey, as long as they start reading a book with the understanding of what they're reading, it's their choice and they must have picked it up for a reason, is all I'm saying. Indeed, as already mentioned, romance is about fantasy. I'm sure there are many women out there who would love three hot mens to 'play' with, hehe.

Janice Maynard said...

Princess - Thanks for stopping by! I've been on a historical binge, myself, lately. Recently finished Mary Balogh's newest series... well except for the hardback. Am still saving my pennies for that one. Great characters!

Janice Maynard said...

P.S. - I just re-read one of my earlier comments and realized that it might have been misconstrued.

When I said earlier that I would have been "horrified" if my daughters had slept around... well first of all "horrified" is a little over the top... and second of all, I was referring to having frequent, different-guy-every- weekend recreational sex like Samantha in Sex and the City. We had a friend in college with very low self-esteem who actually did sleep with guy after guy after guy looking for some kind of validation. It was so bad that when she ended up pregnant, she had no clue who the father was.

That's the kind of excess I was talking about... it was just a stupid example.

Don't you hate reading yourself in print when you make a verbal faux pas?!?!?

Janice Maynard said...

I'm off to dinner and a movie with DH... but I'll be back this evening and will catch up on all your wise and wonderful posts.

Happy weekend to one and all. TGIF!

Michelle Buonfiglio said...

wowza, bellas! just got back from having lunch w/ Mr/Mrs Darcy Mysteries author Carrie Bebris and look what I see here! You may remember Carrie from way back in the day at RBTB/Internet Broadcasting when Carrie did a fab interview as Jane Austen! Amyskf reminded me of that.

Anywayz, the Historical Novel Society's North American conference is being held this weekend, one town over and I'm gonna hang there a little. You may not know this, but I kinda dig historicals. Jade Lee and several other romance greats will attend plus, um, yeah, Gabaldon.

RachieG said...

I completely think that a fictional character can take liberties that I would never imagine taking in real life. I can't tell you the number of stories I've read where the heroine says or does something where I'm like, "Hell YEA! You go girl!" BUT in real life...I may have a different attitude. Terribly hypocritical I know, but hey...it's how I feel.

rachie2004 AT yahoo DOT com

Lyoness2009 said...

I just wanted to give a shout out for writing a different kind of story. For branching out and doing something different. So glad romance has evolved to where you can write about anything and not just stick with the traditional. :)

Book looks fun!

lyoness2009 @ hotmail . com

Mari said...

Oh how i would love to win this book!
I have no problem with a heroine having multiple partners. Skye O'Malley is one of favorite books and the heroine has several men in her life.
That said, I also enjoy books that have virgin heroines. It just depends on what I am the mood for.
The wonderful thing about romance is that I can read about all combination of scenarios that really push the envelope and feel satisfied (vicariously, through the characters) without having to experience it on my own!
Ha!

Janice Maynard said...

Michelle - Diana Gabaldon?!?!? I'm having a fangirl moment. Outlander is my #1 favorite book of all time... no kidding.

Rachie - There's nothing wrong with living vicariously sometimes!

Lyoness - Thanks for the shout out. :) I appreciate it.

Mari - I love it that romance takes so many forms... always something for everyone!

Amy S. said...

Mating Game sounds good!

Caffey said...

This does sound unique for you Janice! I love different now and then too! Variety is always fun to read. Was there anything that had you wanting to write this one? I'm thrilled abou tit!

I think a modern woman certainly can (especially since I read alot of historicals and you can imagine the society was so different then) And now society is more flexible to individuals preferences of their desires. I don't think Nora came into that category of one that's a 'slut' because I think that there's alot of different traits and all that goes into the relationship so part of it is the sex too.

Sounds fab Janice!

Janice Maynard said...

Hi!Amy... good to see you!

Caffey - I'm not sure what prompted the idea... most of the time I don't know there they come from!

Good night all...

Megan said...

Janice, It was great to see you yesterday. Hope you feel a little less stressed.

Sometimes traditional can get boring.
What's to say a woman can't or wouldn't be attacted to more than one man at a time? Men, thru out history have been prasied for their prowess and labeled as a cassanova, because thay sleep with mutipal woman, but if a woman does it she is automaticly labled a slut. Makes perfect since. *rolling eyes*
A woman has no need to love a man to enjoy him.

Janice Maynard said...

Megan says - "A woman has no need to love a man to enjoy him."

This is definitely true, but we've been told for years that "women don't enjoy sex if they are not emotionally involved".

Have we all been brain-washed? Or is it because we are supposed to be the nurturers/nest builders and thus should be monogamous to keep family units strong?

Sometimes it's hard to separate fact from expectations...

And love is a tricky proposition... getting dumped if you are in love is painful in the extreme. If women were casual about sex, then would they care if the guy dumped them and moved on?

Or - if it's simply casual sex, maybe the word "dumping" doesn't even appply!

Monica Burns said...

Have we all been brain-washed? Or is it because we are supposed to be the nurturers/nest builders and thus should be monogamous to keep family units strong?

An interesting question, Janice.

Based on conversations I've had with other women over the years, I've come to believe that women tend to think of love in a cerebral way, while men tend to think of love in a sexual way. Neither gender is wrong, it's just the way we are. But when we come together, it's magic.

I think society has played a definite role in shaping the way we look at ourselves as women.

The cool thing is that with books such as yours and others like it. We can break the mold society wants to keep us in.

Janice Maynard said...

Monica - You are so right! Men do express their love sexually... some go the extra mile and do those "sweet" things they know women like, but I think men channel some of their most powerful emotions through sex.

Billie Jo said...

ACK I missed Janice's chat....waaaaa

Hey Girl! I hope all is well with you.

I think a girl can be "free" with all aspects of her life. She just has to know the boundaries.

Billie Jo

Janice Maynard said...

Billie Jo - We missed blogging with you yesterday! It was great seeing you and Yvonne in Cincinnati!

Stacy~ said...

Janice, there's the difference between sleeping around for validation or taking lovers because you are embracing your sexuality. Though I wasn't a regular watch of SITC, I think the character of Samantha was mostly the latter with a pinch of the former. I almost envied her LOL. But I'm not wired that way. Probably for the best *g*

Billie Jo mentions boundaries, and that's a good point. I've seen women who look upon married men or men in serious relationships as challenges, like a notch in their bedposts if they score. For most, that's a deal breaker in books. The only time I might be able to accept it is in a historical and the couple lives separate lives, but it's not a given I can go along with that scenario. Part of the enjoyment of romances is fidelity, because that's showing the characters not only love each other, but also respect each other and the promises they've made to each other(erotic romances are the exception to the rule, provided it is a fantasy shared by both parties).

Janice Maynard said...

Stacy mentions women "taking lovers because you are embracing your sexuality"... I'd say Samantha from SATC truly fits that definition... but in my sheltered life (ha!) I haven't run across any women like her. Not saying they don't exist... but to me she is more of a fictional character than the other three...


And yes - married men? That's a deal breaker... even in fiction... unless of course as Stacy mentions, that it's an erotic romance where acting out fantasies is accepted by both parties...

I think many women might fantasize about having a smorgasbord of men to "try out"... but in real life, most of us seem to have all we can handle to deal with one man at a time!

Billie Jo said...

LOL Janice!

One man at a time is more than this girl can handle...LOL

Billie Jo

flchen1 said...

Yikes, I definitely missed Janice's visit! I hadn't heard about your latest--it does sound like an intriguing set up! As for being "free" and still "traditional," I'm not sure a heroine can be both, but I'm also not sure that it's a bad thing to be a little untraditional these days. I do think that women have more freedom and say in a good way these days. On the other hand, I think I would personally have a hard time with such a fast-track, but I wouldn't necessarily have trouble reading a heroine who does, depending on the situation. So yes, a fictional heroine would have more license! And yes, I do think it's possible for a woman to be attracted to more than one person, for possibly different reasons--I imagine that happens in real life sometimes and isn't always the easiest to figure out.

Looking forward to reading Nola's story and seeing how she works things out, Janice!

Janice Maynard said...

Fichen - Glad to hear from you! I think it's normal and fun to be attracted to the opposite sex... makes life intersting, right?!?! But yeah - I let my fictional heroines go down roads I wouldn't. :)

I'm headed out of town in a minute, but I'll watch for Michelle to post the winner and will mail the prize on Thurrwday!

Great chatting with you ladies...

Janice

Janice Maynard said...

Interesting... (too fast fingers)

Laurie said...

I think if you like the erotica line of romance a woman can have more freedom with her sexuality...multiple partners, menage a trois, kinkier acts , voyuerism etc.

Three different men may have unique qualities that one woman likes or even loves and attracts her to each individual... looks, kindness, money, honesty, humor, athleticism....

I can't seperate sex & love but hearing my college age sons talk about some of the agressive girls on campus that don't want relationships they just want an orgasim.

I feel that an author can push the limits whether or ot people will buy is unknown but I think an author has the right to push the limits.

"The Mating Game" sounds GREAT!

Anonymous said...

No to separating Sex and Love.

Janice, I love your books!!!!

No to be 3 diff men at one time for different reasons.

I am so rigid and traditional, huh, LOL.

And yes, a fictional heroine can do whatever she wants and it may be things us regular ladies may not do.

Pat L.

Laurie said...

OOPS- Not not ot
forgot my email addy johnslake@usa.com

Helen Brenna said...

God, you guys are funny! Wish I could make it here every day!

Hi, Michelle and Janice!!

Janice, I think you came up with a great way for a traditional heroine to be "free" with her body. As a good Catholic girl, I would've LOVED this opportunity once upon a time!! :)