Tuesday, October 24, 2006

Are You Into A Little BONDage?



He's Daniel Craig, the new James Bond.

Though I've seen some trashy Eurotab photos that would argue he's a big man in all ways, some say he's not alpha and, well, masculine enough to play Agent 007.

Really doesn't matter cause he got the part. And he looks totally righteous in the "Casino Royale" ads sidled up to a sleek, sexy Aston Martin. I luvs me some British rides. [Insert your own Fabio Cannavaro/Italian men bon mots for Michelle here]


Pierce Brosnan ('95-02)





So, are you a Bond girl? Who's your fave? Does the 007 mystique even appeal any longer?





George Lazenby ('69)

Roger Moore (73-85)

Sean Connery (L) ('62-71) Timothy Dalton (R) ('87-89)

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53 comments:

Jennifer Y. said...

I am a Sean Connery and Pierce Brosnan (as Bond) fan! Sean is my fave though. However, I haven't seen that many Bond movies.

Stacy~ said...

I'm not a Bond girl, never saw even one movie and really have no desire to start now, but I agree with Jennifer Y - Connery & Brosnan were the best Bonds.

Jenna Petersen said...

Oh, it's all about Sean. The best Bond ever. Pierce was a great Bond, but after Goldeneye, I didn't think any of his Bond movies were up to par. But HE was spectacular. I don't really have any interest in the new Bond.

Pamela Clare said...

I'm not a huge Bond fan—too much sleeping around and dorky female characters named things like Octopussy. Give me a break! Can you imagine a novel with a hero named Raging Boner? "My name is Boner, Raging Boner." Paging Mr. Boner, Mr. Raging Boner.

But Sean Connery is the best-ever Bond, followed by Pierce Brosnan, that hottie! My kids like Bond movies so I'm sure I'll be seeing the new guy.

Julie in Ohio said...

OMG, I am SO a Bond girl. I have seen every single movie and I have to say that Roger Moore was my 007, with an honorable mention to Sean Connery (love the accent).

However, Pierce Brosnan can frisk me any day. :P

I have a hard time with Daniel Craig as Bond. I can't put my finger on what the problem is but I just don't see it.

Michelle Buonfiglio said...

Buongiorno, Bellas and Bond Girls! I ws always a fan of the mystique, but not so much the movies. I can't remember which, and I want to believe it was Moore and not cutie Sean (who will always be Bond to me), but early in one movie, Bond hauls off and bitch slaps some chick. It was stunning to me when I saw it a few years ago.

I couldn't get over the idea of our being entertained by that, his hitting her having something to do with his sexy character or masterful manner.

But shouldn't I put the same test to that as I do to female fantasy and not jump revisionist on it? Does it make a difference if the fantasy of female domination is played out on the screen or on the page? Is male fantasy or female?

TV (this was rebroadcast, obviously) is not as easily kept from impressionable children's access as the novel, although that sounds silly even as I write it, cause kids can find anything they're looking for.

Welcome to the Slippery Slope, Bellas! Hope you're wearin a nice, grippy pair of Wellies cause you're so gonna need em.

Pamela Clare said...

Julie, to me Craig doesn't seem to have the polish that the other Bonds have had. He seems rougher. As a woman, I might like a rugged guy—well, and I do—but part of Bond's charm is that he's such so sleek and smooth on the outside. He's Mr. Champagne and Caviar who then manages to kick butt in the extreme.

Just my thoughts. Who knows. No coffee in my bloodstream yet.

Hope y'all don't mind. I seem to be hanging out here. :-)

Pamela Clare said...

Michelle, I think that scene was controversial in its own day, and I believe Sean caught a bunch of flack for publicly saying he didn't see anything wrong with a man hitting a woman if she really needed it.

Now, those weren't his words. I'm trying to recollect. That was the gist. And people were outraged, particularly women, who thought it represented a soft attitude toward domestic violence.

I know he's been interviewed about his comments in the years since.

You ask good questions, and I don't have the answers. I try to be tolerant. Yet the power dynamic between men and women (and the difference in physical strength) means that male domination strikes a different note than female domination. If that makes any sense...

What are Wellies? I should get some. I'm sliding...

Helen Brenna said...

Nobody does it better than Sean. Pierce is a close second. Daniel Craig? Hmmm. I thought he was an interesting choice.

Generally, I'm not much for blonds, but he does have a rougher image. I think they chose him to attract a younger audience.

Anyone see Layer Cake? He was a cocaine dealer and did an incredible job.

Like I said, interesting choice.

Helen Brenna said...

Pamela, yes, I believe those were almost exactly Sean Connery's words with regard to hitting a woman. I saw the interview and have since NEVER been able to view his acting performances in the same light.

Monica Burns said...

Bond, James Bond.

Ok, I'm so NOT there. The DH is a total diehard fan. He owns every movie, and I'm considering the DVD collection for him for Xmas (at least he's easy to buy for *grin*). As for me, I always found the movies a bit too sexist. Could be because they originated in what the mid-late sixties?

However, that said, it's impossible not to at least know who the current Bond guy is. One would have to have their head stuck in sand. Me, I'd have to say Connery (despite his sexist viewpoints on hitting women to keep them in line) is the ultimate Bond. It's all in the voice. The voice says it all. Bond. James Bond. *smile*

Monica Burns said...

I'm with you on the not viewing him in the same light Helen. I think he's a terrific actor, but there's always a part of me that cringes when I see him. I remember that interview vividly. I remember being appalled and crushed that an actor I really loved would actually think something so wrong was right. Violence has never been the answer to anything. Although I confess that my Italian background makes that concept a truly intriguing and difficult one. *sigh*

Michelle Buonfiglio said...

ARe you kiddin? We're happy you're hanging, Pamela.

JulieO, I know what you mean about the smooth. This guy's not even dark haired, which is what throws me, I think.

Hey, Jenna! Good to have you here! Can't wait for you to visit in December. Yeah. It's all about Sean, at least for me. Who even knew for George Lazenby?

Stace, I think you're pretty much like lots of folks who haven't seen the movies. Sean Connery, at least for most women, seems to wear the Bond brand.

ev said...

Julie- did you know the new couldn't even drive a standard?? And he came in on a boat, for an interview/promo in a life jacket. NOT something, Bond, James Bond would do. I think that is where the not quite the character stuff came from. He's not as Alpha as the rest.

Yes, I am a Bond girl. I love the movies. I love Roger Moore. mmmmmm. And Pierce. And Sean (as an actor, not for his comments.) Ilove the campiness of the names for the women- just because they are so far fetched.

And I would love to see someone page Mr. Raging Boner. That's a great name for a Bond movie character. Maybe someday someone will switch it to a female Bond and they can use that name!!!

ev said...

Monica- Did you know (in reference to the time period of the movies) that in the books he was married? And the playboy image was just that- an image? I hate how they do that sometimes- change it from the original story line. I may have to put that DVD collection on my want list too. Right after I get all the John Wayne and Cary Grant ones.

Michelle- I agree. I think it is the blonde hair that puts me off. The others have always (except maybe for Dalton) been able to transition from actor to actor, but this is just off.

Monica Burns said...

Yet the power dynamic between men and women (and the difference in physical strength) means that male domination strikes a different note than female domination. If that makes any sense...

Ok, I for one am delighted to see you staying around Pamela! *grin* And I think your comment makes perfect sense. Or at least in the sense that I interpreted it. *smile* I think in a good book the balance of that domination can make for excellent reading as long as it's within my own personal boundaries, which can be different from the boundaries others set for themselves.

Wellies...I'm not 100%, but I'm betting those would be rain boots, or those high hipped waders you see fly fishermen using when they're standing in thigh-high water. *grin*

Michelle Buonfiglio said...

My writing overlapped yours Helen, ev, and Mon; sorry cause your stuff was important here.

You know, Helen, I think you're right about the younger audience. Do you think Craig has the anti-hero feel cause of some of the roles he's known for?

Hey, Mon! Glad you're gettin to poke your head in here more often. Hope the writing's goin well, but still happy you're able to take a break. Must be that Bond draws out the writers with you and Helen and Pamela and Jenna (did I miss anyone? the day's young).

Anywayz, you kinda make my point for me, Mon. We call the Bond film sexist, yet many of us say we dig the "forced seduction." We also state the "I'm OK/You're OK" mantra of fantasy here.

So, if it's OK for a woman to fantasize about being, let's say, bound and overcome by a man or men -- and read about it in erotica, maaaayyyybeee erotic romance -- isn't it OK for guys to fantasize about bitch -slappin some chick? I mean, is that fantasy more violent than a woman's rape fantasy?

Or is it just cause it's played out on celluloid.

Holy God! Betcha thought you stumbled on to Teach Me Tonight for a second there.

Michelle Buonfiglio said...

Ooops. Yup. Wellies are rain boots, first termed Wellingtons in Britain after you=know=who. In honor of JB, and cause it fell into use around my house for some weird reason -- probably miserably affected -- I used the term Wellies today. :)

I think the comments are posting oddly today, so I'm posting over a lot of folks. Sorry for the poor blogging manners.

Monica Burns said...

Monica- Did you know (in reference to the time period of the movies) that in the books he was married? And the playboy image was just that- an image? I hate how they do that sometimes- change it from the original story line. I may have to put that DVD collection on my want list too. Right after I get all the John Wayne and Cary Grant ones.

OMIGOD! That's insane! I never knew that. I'll have to ask the DH if he was aware of it. He doesn't read books outside of ghost stories and airplane books. *sigh* Then again, maybe not. I don't want him getting any crazy ideas to start his own "Bond" image.

Which sort of segues into something he told me recently. The DH is good looking, but not movie star good looking. He informed me that he'd heard on the news that women, when looking for life mates, tend to pick men of his body build (he's not in sloppy shape, but he can't carry me up the stairs like Clark did with Scarlet *grin*) because they're viewed as not being likely to cheat on their spouse. He stated that women viewed men with bodies made in the gym or with movie star looks as being poor husband material.

I have to admit, I just looked at him for a long moment before I shook my head and said. "Do you REALLY think that's why I married you? If body build had been a consideration. You wouldn't have even gotten the first date. It was your smile, honey. Your smile had me at hello." *grin*

So to wrap up that LONG piece, what do you Bellas think about that little scientific piece my DH presented to me? Any merit?

Julie in Ohio said...

Pamela- I think you hit the nail on the head with your comparison of Craig and Bond. I just don't see Craig saying "shaken not stirred". He's more the draft or bottle type.

The blond thing is definitely a scene stopper, IMO. It's like reading a book and you come across a word in a different language that you don't know how to pronounce, it takes you out of the story. That's the way a blond 007 is for me. I keep staring trying to figure him out and the story hiccups.

ev said...

Monica- I heard the same report as he did. I tend to agree with it, at least for me. I dated a couple of those movie star looking guys when I was much thinner and once I got past the looks, there wasn't really much there. On the other hand, my now potbellied hubby (who doesn't even have an ass to hold his pants up) has the greatest blue eyes and gives the best hugs when I need them. And his smile ain't half bad either.

ev said...

Pamela and Julie- THAT'S it- he is definately not the Martini type. Much more a bottle of Guiness type. I keep waiting for someone to spoil the story line and say he is an imposter and here is the REAL Bond, James Bond.

Julie in Ohio said...

LOL, Ev!! We can only hope...

Louisa Edwards said...

I must be a purist, because it's all about Connery for me. That twinkle in his eye, the lazy way he drawls out those ridiculous one-liners, which makes it seem as if he's completely in on the joke (as opposed to poor, earnest Roger Moore, who probably never had a mishievous moment in his life). I enjoyed Pierce Brosnan quite a bit, as well--although no one could possibly be saying that Daniel Craig is any less masculine than old Pierce. Personally, I find Craig very masculine, to the point of almost being too rough and edgy to play what is essentially a very refined, toff British character. I'm interested to see how it works out, at least.

Monica Burns said...

So, if it's OK for a woman to fantasize about being, let's say, bound and overcome by a man or men -- and read about it in erotica, maaaayyyybeee erotic romance -- isn't it OK for guys to fantasize about bitch -slappin some chick? I mean, is that fantasy more violent than a woman's rape fantasy?

Michelle, I’ve always been a strong proponent of people having whatever fantasy they wanted. If we say it’s okay for a woman to have the kind of fantasy you mention, then it should be ok for a guy to have the fantasy he wants. I don’t think one is more or less violent than the other. I think they’re both violent fantasies. And that’s the key. They’re fantasies. Unfortunately, far too many people confuse fantasy with reality.

I believe that's where a lot of people have problems with erotic romance/erotica. I think so many people think that if a writer writes erotic romance/erotica that has flavors/levels of BDSM, ménage, etc. that the writer enjoys that thing personally and endorses that type of behavior in real life. Hell, it's why the DH's boss has jokingly hinted at wife swapping. NOT happening! (Although….boss is definitely a HOT babe. ROFL)

I think it's the same way with a Bond type of character that hits a woman on screen or in a book. For a guy, this might be a total turn on, a fantasy, but IMHO too many people confuse the fantasy and think that the author/movie maker endorses the behavior and/or believes the behavior is appropriate for reality.

People also seem to think the same thing about readers as well. If you read about bondage, ménage, force seduction, bitch-slapping, you’re into that in real life. I’m sure there is a percentage of people who have the fantasy and want to actually experience it in real life, but I’m betting the number is smaller than most people seem to think.

The problem is the separation of reality and fantasy for so many people in terms of what’s acceptable behavior in real life. Does that make sense?

bamabelle said...

I still see Sean Connery as Bond, despite his opinions in regards to hitting women :( I agree with many of the other Bellas that Daniel Craig is a little rough around the edges for Bond.

Cryna said...

I think that Sean Connery was the best Bond, and I so enjoyed watching him. I also enjoyed Pierce Brosnan as Bond, but overall Sean is the man. I am not sure how Daniel Craig will work out, I just can't warm to the idea.

bamabelle said...

I agree with Monica, in that fantasy and reality are two very different things. It's okay for a man to have that fantasy, as long as that's all it is ... fantasy.

Vivi Anna said...

I'm a Brosnan bond girl. I love Pierce. Sexy as sin!

I had a problem with Daniel until I rented Layer Cake. It's a English mobster film...and he's rightly very sexy and alpha in it. I have amended my view on him, and will see the new Bond film.

If you can handle violence and want to see Daniel in a new light, I recommend seeing Layer Cake.

Jennifer Y. said...

So I saw a commercial for the new Bond movie and the tagline said something like find out how Bond became Bond. Does this mean this new film is a prequel or something? I think I read it was about his first mission, but I am unfamiliar with all of the movies having only seen a couple.

Kimber said...

Casino Royale is a remake of the first Bond movie (also the first book, I believe) which starred David Niven, of all people. I haven't seen it, but I gather it's pretty campy. So in that sense it's a prequel.

My fave Bond is Sean Connery: he had the best accent and the best clothes and he's about the only Bond who's fight scenes look real—rough and dirty. Roger Moore was a pansy, IMO. And don't get me started on the scariest love scene of all time, featuring him and Grace Jones *shudder*. However, "On Her Majesty's Secret Service," the one with George Lazenby, is my favorite Bond picture.

I must say, after I saw the trailer for the new movie, I was disappointed to find out it's NOT in black & white. Now THAT would have been cool.

Michelle Buonfiglio said...

Ev, apparently in the Lazenby movie, Bond was married. Widowed pretty quickly, too. Isn't there a nod to that in the second Austin Powers flick? And how mortifying and insanely, sophomorically funny were they?

Talk about offending my feminist sensibilities while calling me to task for enjoying sexist humor...

Tam said...

We are JB 007 fans. We have 20 JB 007 movies on DVD. Not sure but I think that may be most of them if not all of them. We have weekends where we well have a JB marathon.

ev said...

Michelle- I only ever saw the first Austin Powers movie, and the only funny part about that was the pissing scene. I never saw it again or the second one. My bad.

Michelle Buonfiglio said...

Ah, ev. Clearly you don't crave sophomoric humor the way I do. Sponge Bob, Austin Powers, Wayne's World ("I believe it was Neitzche, or was it Dick van Patten who said..." I've used that quote a billion times, though I'd guess most don't find it as funny as I do).

Please. Let this be our little secret, ok?

Monica Burns said...

Michelle, there are no secrets here, only opportunities for blackmail. Bwwwaaahahahahaha


You know, I must not be able to talk to my inner child like others do. *sigh* SB and AP just don't take me anywhere pleasurable. I become Sonny Corleone when I hear those voices. Wayne's World though I did love. And I confess to a love of Bill and Ted. "Whoa dude!"
*grin* Gosh, today is fun...the dayjob is really slow!!

Julie in Ohio said...

Michelle- I adore Waynes World and Austin Powers. Michael Myers is a comedic god in my book.

Monica- I, too, loved Bill & Ted, both of them. That started my little known Keanu obsession. I think it's his eyes.

Problem Child said...

I'm not a big Bond fan.

But I do love Sean Connery--but only when he's older. It's just not there for me in his younger years.

Go figure

Vivi Anna said...

Oh, I love Mike Meyers. Shrek is still one of my favorite movies of all time. Austin Powers was great fun. Loved them. Wayne's World is a classic. "Wayne's World, Wayne's World, Party On, Excellent"

"Game on! Game on!"

I use that all the time!!!

Pamela Clare said...

I have to confess that I love Austin Powers. Lines from those movies make it into my daily life, either from me or my two sons, causing spontaneous hilarity.

My fave: The scene about the ill-tempered sea bass.

It pops into my head at awkward times and makes me just laugh my head off.

When I was in Holland, it was all I could do not to say, "How about no, you crazy Dutch b*stard!"

I don't have access to TV and rarely get out to movies, but Austin Powers rocks. Riiiight.

Cathy said...

Pierce Brosnan was my favorite Bond. Also a big thanks for yesterday's guest blogger contest win. All the books listed sound like fabulous reads.

Kate Pearce said...

Pierce Brosnan and Sean Connery for me please!
Kate

Stacy~ said...

Yeah, Bond seems like the total guy fantasy, from the lifestyle to the women to the gadgets to the cars. I guess it does make sense that if guys have the b*tch-slap fantasy, why not have it in a Bond flick?

I liked Wayne's World, but never saw any of the Austin Powers movies. I think I'm more about the raunchier humor like "American Pie" and "Something About Mary". Some of the parody movies like "Scariest Movie" too.

Sending a shout-out to all the posters, but missing our Rach, Amy*skf, Manda, MaryKate, Michele. Come out, come out wherever you are....

Cara North said...

Just discovered this blog from the LF Bookjunkies group.

Bond: I Love Pierce Brosnan as Bond and second would be Sean Connery.

Isabella Snow said...

Brosnan, fo' shizzle.

But Craig has a slammin' body.

Yummmm.

Monica Burns said...

Viv doll, I love Shrek too! "Ogres are like onions. We have layers." ROFL

ev said...

Stacy- Thank god someone with my gross sense of humor. although I do love to watch Sponge Bob, and Farily Odd Parents too. Wayne's World and Shrek. I just plain didn't like Austin Powers.

On the other hand, the Scary Movies, well I have taken the "kids" to all of them. Started when they were under age and I HAD to go with them, it's now a tradition. I also love things like Airplane (Don't Call me Shirley), Robin Hood, Men in Tights, etc... Oh and any thing Mel Brooks.

pearl said...

Pierce is the ultimate and Sean Connery is the original. Both are suave and ideal. Never tamper with perfection.

joelle said...

Sean Connery is a natural and makes the role his own. Pierce is dreamy and debonair.

Michelle Buonfiglio said...

Hey, Cara! Any friend of Lori Fosters...

Isabella, Any Bella who uses street rap her is definitely a friend, too! Although I once got ribbed mercilessly here for using "in the hizowse." Go figure. They act like I'm some middle-aged white chick from the Midwest or something. I ran out of room before i could post a rockin pic of Craig at the beach.

Now, I'm thinking about my writing bitch v b*tch today.

I think I should probably take a poll -- but truthfully, it's my blog so I kinda feel I should write how I wants to (yet I'm always likin to be polite) -- about whether I should disguise "obscenities" w/ a cute little *, as in b*tch, or $ signs, as in a$$. And how many asterisks is appropriate for the Fword,anyway. One? F*ck. Two? F*c*, or F**K, or **ck? But that of course could be c*ck, or c**k, which could also be cook.

I mean, if I want to tell you about a hero with a really big c**k, I think I'm doing him an injustice if it's possible folks will infer he employs a large chef.

Hmmm. I really like to say it like it is, but maybe full frontal verbosity would pull down the level of intelligent discourse here.

But, then again, it is my blog...

Michelle Buonfiglio said...

joelle, pearl, yeah, suave, debonaire.Those are the words that equal Bond.

Do you remember how great Connory was in the last Indiana Jones movie? How he thought the young chicks were after him in that endearingly pathetic past-his-prime way?

ev, my husband likes the Scary Movies, too. He was a bit disappointed in the last, but I'm not sure what he expected. But there was a ridiculously baudy line, so horrible one couldn't help laughing or groaning.

Airplane! yes! "Guess I picked the wrong day to give up [ ]." "It's like a big, white Tylenol." "Stewardess, I speak jive."

ev said...

And to go with the bawdy humor- did anyone watch Boston Legal tonite????

Mad Penis Disease!!!!!

I have a new favorite tv line!!


Btw- the **&&^% don't fool me, I know it ain't a big cook!!

Pamela Clare said...

Michelle, I personally don't mind profanity at all and feel silly using little symbols to disguise what people can understand perfectly well.

There's a line in Bridget Jones' Diary that describes journalists perfectly: "So-and-So was a journalist and that meant she used the word f*ck every time she got the chance." Or something like that.

Yep.

So I'm using little symbols out of respect for people who might not want to see the real word. But I love reality. I love the truth. Profanity or hip-hop talk doesn't bother me at all.